My next car needs to have 250hp.

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09/14/2018 at 14:34 • Filed to: None

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I just realized that each of my three cars so far has, starting with 0, had roughly 60hp more than the one it replaced (65, 132, 190). If that trend continues, 250- ish is next. I need to start researching what my options are.


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Kinja'd!!! Chariotoflove > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:37

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That was my target sweet spot too. Then I got a car with 420 hp. I ’m a little worried I’ll never be able to go back.


Kinja'd!!! KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Chariotoflove
09/14/2018 at 14:41

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 With 420HP, You’re too high to come back down.


Kinja'd!!! Chariotoflove > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
09/14/2018 at 14:42

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I’ve had the car for over a year and never saw that. I am ashamed.

But thank you.


Kinja'd!!! KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:42

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After my previous car(e90 328i) my minimum requirements now are 300+HP on anything up to  4000Lb and 350+ HP absolutely on anything close to 4500Lb, on sedans.


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:45

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The Accord Hybrid V6 has 250 hp from the engine only :o)

If you want something newer, I believe the Focus ST has something very close to 250 hp as well.

What is your price range?


Kinja'd!!! KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > dogisbadob
09/14/2018 at 14:48

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Wait, there is/was a Hybird V6 accord? The new ones, Aren’t they all 4 clyinders? and they make only 212HP combined?

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/accord-hybrid/2018/2018-honda-accord-hybrid-first-test-review/


Kinja'd!!! OPPOsaurus WRX > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:49

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the Neon SRT4 has 250 ft lb of torque . 230 hp is pretty close.


Kinja'd!!! Takuro Spirit > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:51

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250hp

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cheap


Kinja'd!!! Maxima Speed > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:52

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145HP

192 HP

215 HP

225 HP

Generally upward but not much pattern, looks like possible a logarithmic scale of diminishing gains?

*Trying to use math words to sound smart*


Kinja'd!!! Just Jeepin' > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:53

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I may have peaked at 190 with my 2005 LJ. I’m intrigued by the possibility of buying a new Spider next year, because I’ve never owned a new car, but that’s less than 170, and any older Jeep I buy would have less than 190 as well.

An S2000 would be in the 250ish range, however, and is also on my wishlist.


Kinja'd!!! NKato > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 14:54

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Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. Engine is from a 1999-2004 Ford Mustang GT with 250 Horsepower before the wheels. Look ‘er up, check local government surplus auction listings, and do your due diligence before you jump into one.


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
09/14/2018 at 14:57

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The V6 Accord hybrid was sold from 2005-2007


Kinja'd!!! Takuro Spirit > NKato
09/14/2018 at 14:58

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2004+ for 250. 01-03 has 232.


Kinja'd!!! dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > dogisbadob
09/14/2018 at 14:59

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I strongly considered buying one, the appeal of decent acceleration and good fuel economy was (and still is) very tempting. Only things that scared me were in case the batteries needed to be replaced and the fact it’s not an easy car to find, at least in the midwest


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Maxima Speed
09/14/2018 at 15:00

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A log fit would be this:

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Not the greatest R^2, but not bad either.

A second-order polynomial is a better fit:

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... though obviously not as good as a 3rd order polynomial, which is IIRC able to be a perfect match for any four points, so...

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If we go third order as predictive , your next car will have 233hp.


Kinja'd!!! dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:00

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I went down 20hp (and 60lb ft of torque!)  but also went down 550lbs


Kinja'd!!! NKato > Takuro Spirit
09/14/2018 at 15:01

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And you’re not finding anything older than 2004 at auction anyway. The last of the Tacoma PD’s 2004's were put up for auction this year, and they were impeccable .


Kinja'd!!! Just Jeepin' > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/14/2018 at 15:02

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If we go third order as predictive, your next car will have 233hp.

Aha. Perfect for an S2000.


Kinja'd!!! Future ND Owner > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:03

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Focus ST!


Kinja'd!!! interstate366, now In The Industry > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:04

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140, 200, 140, 195, 140, 140, 215, 201, 305. One of these things is not like the others.


Kinja'd!!! Cé hé sin > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:04

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On the other hand, my previous car had 170 bhp. Its succ essor has about 80.


Kinja'd!!! Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:06

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Kinja'd!!! Maxima Speed > Just Jeepin'
09/14/2018 at 15:07

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I approve


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:12

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This is how it starts. I started out with a 110 hp Kia BEAST of a car.

Then I was like, “You know 180 hp might be better”, and I was happy for a while. Then I went to 260, then 300... and it was pretty good....

Now I’m at 400+. And looking at 500+.

And I can’t stop.

Tread carefully , Horsepower Padawan...


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/14/2018 at 15:17

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I like these, we/you/someone should do a 3rd order polynomial for 4 points on hp to weight ratio. 


Kinja'd!!! BeaterGT > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:18

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According to Google, Legacy GT has 250 hp. My order was 160/275/100 (never again)/250/405.


Kinja'd!!! Nick- Professional Car Destroyer > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:19

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2007 ish Saab 9-3 Aero


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Just Jeepin'
09/14/2018 at 15:19

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Next after that is 249. Then 287. Your 11th car will have north of 800.


Kinja'd!!! KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 15:21

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Curious as to what 500hp cars youre looking at as that is borderline supercar territory.

American muscle is what comes to mind immediately that will actually be addordable used- Gt350, hellcats, Zl1 camaro, z06 corvette, CTS-V

European japanese- jaguar ftype R, m5, c63/e63, R8, Gt-R


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 15:22

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Or a trig fit on power to weight for added hilarity.


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
09/14/2018 at 15:30

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Z06 is my primary dream team candidate.

Other considerations include:

R35, GT350, ZL1, CTS-V, Ftype maybe, R8 V10s haven’t come down enough to seriously consider, neither have gen 2 NSXes, and occasionally I go eyeball a C63 of some sort. Maybe I’ll take a look at the new GT500 when it comes out, although I expect a discouragingly robust super-markup.

I might make an exception for a Evora 400 but they are still all hanging out at 90-100k, so. 


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > BeaterGT
09/14/2018 at 15:31

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I like motors that don't need a turbo replacement every 60k miles.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 15:32

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My new car budget is gonna be around $4k.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Cé hé sin
09/14/2018 at 15:34

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Extrapolating on that, your next car should be pedal-powered.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > interstate366, now In The Industry
09/14/2018 at 15:34

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Did you go back to the same car three times?


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:35

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Neon SRT-4 ? are there any left? 


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/14/2018 at 15:36

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As nice  as that would be there’s no clean ones left and I really need 4 doors. I'm thinking a V8 Lincoln LS.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/14/2018 at 15:37

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Kinja'd!!! BeaterGT > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:37

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60k? Wow, guess I’m lucky at 120k. Actually I just change my oil.


Kinja'd!!! Future Heap Owner > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:38

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I am very interested to see how this turns iut


Kinja'd!!! ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 15:38

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No Viper?


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
09/14/2018 at 15:42

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I forgot to write that down. I like Vipers. The older ones do make me a bit nervous. 


Kinja'd!!! Future Heap Owner > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:46

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Hmm, 140 -> 210 myself. At this rate, given that I’ve gotten a new vehicle every 18 months,  I’ll be in a Hellcat in about a decade.


Kinja'd!!! nj959 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/14/2018 at 15:47

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r^2=.998

...

Not the greatest.

wat.


Kinja'd!!! ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 15:48

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I’ve been looking at them old vipers (96 -02). The more I research, the more I’m scared and excited, and the more I want one . I need to drive one...


Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:48

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165, 87, 93, 172, 175, 150 ummm not sure where this is going but it’s not up.


Kinja'd!!! Maxima Speed > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 15:50

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was going to say, I believe the weight of my cars has gone up simultaneous with horsepower increases.


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > nj959
09/14/2018 at 15:50

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OK, it’s ludicrously great by normal standards , but counterpoint: only 4 points with minimal variation. If a second order fit wants to outright impress me at that level it better hit three 9s.


Kinja'd!!! ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:51

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Mini! Not quite 250bhp, but ~160bhp and 2300 lb. How much does your current 190b hp car weigh?


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 15:52

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The best thing about being a third order fit is that his inflection point is about at his fourth car, so a fit would have his hp rate of increase go to beyond insane. If talking about a second order fit, they’d start falling off again.


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > nj959
09/14/2018 at 15:54

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In replying, I got confused because you got confused. The one I called “not the greatest” was the log fit at .988. Which is good, yes, but not crazy.


Kinja'd!!! nj959 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/14/2018 at 15:58

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Yeah I copied the wrong number down.

I think the issue is that I come from an accounting background and for trying to predict something like future sales based on past seasonal trends, an r^2 of .988 falls under the category of “plenty”.


Kinja'd!!! Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 16:15

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Anything with a GM LTG.

252HP, 295ft/lbs.


Kinja'd!!! Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 16:20

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Mines been on a steady decline lately.

My latest is a meager 160hp (190ft-lbs), but the car is light and the gearing is perfect so it’s as much/more fun than vehicles I’ve owned with double that.


Kinja'd!!! interstate366, now In The Industry > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 16:20

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No, just  three different versions of the same car. One of the 140s was something else.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
09/14/2018 at 16:37

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... 3,500lbs.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 16:39

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No good ones at least.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Future Heap Owner
09/14/2018 at 16:40

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I’m leaning towards V8 Lincoln LS.


Kinja'd!!! Logansteno: Bought a VW? > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 16:54

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Mine have been all over the place just like their bodystyles.

160-van

240-sedan

195-compact pickup

320-fullsize pickup

200-hatchback


Kinja'd!!! TFSIVTEC drivesavolvo > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 17:01

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B5 S4 


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > TFSIVTEC drivesavolvo
09/14/2018 at 17:16

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I’m terrified to see what kind of S4 could  be bought with my budget.


Kinja'd!!! ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 17:19

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My recent experience driving a 300bhp Impala boat made me realize that my mini is just as fast. Weight play s a big part when it comes to acceleration. And you should be able to get a 1st Gen Cooper S for around $4k.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
09/14/2018 at 17:26

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My current car has a close ratio manual so it’s much zippier than the power-to-weight ratio might suggest. The spec sit es all say it has a 6.7-7.0 0-60.


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/14/2018 at 17:42

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Logs are too complicated. I'd just do line of best fit.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > BeaterGT
09/14/2018 at 18:38

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you are on borrowed time.


Kinja'd!!! Shift24 > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 18:55

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Acura TL SH-AWD, he ll even a base manual made 28 0 hp

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Kinja'd!!! bhtooefr > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 18:59

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My history goes something like this:

52 (2350 lbs), 88 (2040 lbs), 52 (2200 lbs), 116 in theory (2200 lbs), 90 originally, 150-160 by the time I was done (2790 lbs), 140 (2332 lbs), 121 (3050 lbs).

...kinda all over the place.


Kinja'd!!! BeaterGT > HammerheadFistpunch
09/14/2018 at 19:25

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Aren’t we all. It's been 5 years without issue, nothing lasts forever. 


Kinja'd!!! aquila121 > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 20:01

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I’m trying to go about this a different way, I took one of my cars and went a smidge crazy with mods—bringing the wheel-horsepower from 170 to 250. That was fun. In the meantime, I’ve held my daily driver’s power levels to more reasonable amounts: 100, 130, 140, 155 (all claimed crank) so that I didn’t get bored with the 250-wheel in my Prelude.

Now, I’m slowly working to shoving an engine with similar power into a chassis about 400 lbs lighter than my Honda , and with rear-wheel-drive. If it ever gets finished, I’m hoping it’ll  keep me entertained.


Kinja'd!!! VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > aquila121
09/14/2018 at 20:05

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I keep buying cars where HP mods are rather expensive  to implement, and I’m kept too busy at work to wrench properly, otherwise I’d be doing the same with you.


Kinja'd!!! aquila121 > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
09/14/2018 at 20:57

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You have my admiration for doing any amount of wrenching yourself--it’s not a skill I possess.


Kinja'd!!! wafflesnfalafel > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 21:45

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round up - WRX


Kinja'd!!! JMKarstetter > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/14/2018 at 22:51

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I’ve went 140 (2001 Mistubishi Galant 4cyl), 166HP (Honda Element), 247 (08 Honda Ridgeline), 99HP (2015 Prius C Owned at the same time as Ridgeline), 365HP (2015 Taurus SHO) 400ish HP (2015 Taurus SHO Tuned) I figure next I need an SUV, then 700+HP


Kinja'd!!! TFSIVTEC drivesavolvo > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/15/2018 at 17:23

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I just bought a 2.7T Allroad for $300


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09/15/2018 at 17:49

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I bet you’re into masochism play, you sick fuck.